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Rough Rider
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A-fib and marijuana

Post by Rough Rider » January 8th, 2019, 5:26 pm

Does the following article make sense to anyone?
https://www.dicardiology.com/content/ma ... -afib-risk
May 15, 2018 — According to new research, smoking marijuana may not be associated with an increased risk of ventricular fibrillation (VF) and ventricular tachycardia (VT) following an acute myocardial infarction (AMI). The study also reported that marijuana users had a decreased risk of atrial fibrillation (AFib) and in-hospital mortality. The results of the study were presented at Heart Rhythm 2018, the Heart Rhythm Society’s 39th Annual Scientific Sessions.

Recent federal data reported a stunning 455 percent increase in marijuana consumption among U.S. adults ages 55-64 years and 333 percent in ages over 64 years between 2002 and 2014 [1]. In fact, one in eight Americans say they smoke marijuana [2]. While results of previous studies show links between cannabis use and increases in heart rate and blood pressure, little is known about the cardiac-related effects for heart arrhythmias including VF and VT.

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Re: A-fib and marijuana

Post by Leedur » January 8th, 2019, 7:56 pm

I had a little trouble following the article wording, especially "Variables included in a step-forward multivariate logistic regression model included age, race and cardiac risk factors". Other than that it says further study needed. I am for anything natural or synthetic that's proven to help cardiac patients. God made the herbs for healing.....whether that includes heart issues???

It's hard to know what to believe these days as those with special interests (money) are known to report that which furthers those interests. Also, I would hardly think any Cardiologist would encourage or approve of a recent M I patient to mix other drugs with their prescriptions.

To answer your question "Does this article make sense to anyone?" Not me.

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Re: A-fib and marijuana

Post by mykidsmom » January 8th, 2019, 8:02 pm

well im in canada..and according to my cardiologist..(whom i ignore mostly) smoking the funny weed can cause AFIB...the dr who prescribed it said the same but prescribed it anyways cos i was in a lupus attack and the pain was pretty intense.....it actually causes hives with me so i dont bother.......the oil makes me want to throw up....so its not worth my while trying to be addicted to anything ffs....meanwhile i had loads of the stuff cos last year i thought it might work for me for pain..and i cant cook so making brownies was never an option.......didnt work for the pain either.
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Re: A-fib and marijuana

Post by ROBO Pop » January 10th, 2019, 4:49 pm

Simple, Marijuana doesn't help with AFIB, but you don't give a crap about a simple thing like your heart running amok after smoking it...light 'em if you got 'em (an old military expression) lmao4dx
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Re: A-fib and marijuana

Post by Leedur » January 18th, 2019, 10:54 pm

Well, since commenting on this post about A-fib and 10 months after last Cardioversion, A-fib returned suddenly last Saturday with the usual symptoms shortness of breath and muscle weakness in legs.

Reported to doctor Wednesday and they had me send a remote via Latitude monitor which confirmed A-fib. Had another (3rd) cardioversion today. The 10 month gap certainly beats the 4 week gap between the first and second Cardioversion.

No, I didn't try the Pot treatment.

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Re: A-fib and marijuana

Post by mykidsmom » January 19th, 2019, 12:01 pm

so do you think the afib just happened out of the blue or was there a reason for it that you can figure out????

reason im asking is....i too had a bout of afib this week....yesterday in fact.. and im almost sure i brought it on myself...the whole day from the time i opened my eyeballs in the am till i went to bed last night was stress stress and stress and rushing in circles.......and when i was at the kidney specialist yesterday morning my blood pressure was 220/185 they took the pressure in 4 lots...each one being 6 pressures....by the time they were doing the 4th bunch of 6 you could see it dropping like a brick and it was down to 120/80 ...it was just a bad day....but ive also been kicking cold symptoms around for a couple of weeks and have been taking over the counter cold medication...so im sure this all factors in.......other than yesterday ive been fine heart wise and the last incident i had like this was pretty much under similar circumstances.......my heart clearly just wants a calm drama free environment which sadly it doesnt have lol...
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Re: A-fib and marijuana

Post by Leedur » January 19th, 2019, 12:51 pm

MKM..... Probably just out of the blue. Stress in some form occurs daily. Haven't changed diet or taken up any new bad habits. Still consume my 2 cups black coffee daily and get sufficient exercise either at the gym or working.

Blood pressure doesn't fluctuate much that I am aware of and never checks out as high with the meds I take. I've heard people say and write about A-fib that comes and goes. I have not been so lucky as mine seems to come and stay.

All I can guess is there must have been a malfunction at the junction.

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Re: A-fib and marijuana

Post by mykidsmom » January 19th, 2019, 1:36 pm

I hear ya...and your probably right...its just amazing we can all end up at the same spot with so many different causes eh...I just sorta wish though i could kick back and enjoy some pot hahahaa..Im almost certain my decision to marry willie and have 4 bloomin kids is a huge cause of my issues lol.....do you sent in a remote report when this happens???
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Re: A-fib and marijuana

Post by Leedur » January 19th, 2019, 4:32 pm

Don't think I can blame anyone except maybe my parents and genetics....as both died from effects of heart disease....Dad at age 60 and Mother 89. I haven't always cared to live exactly the best recommended way to prevent illness either. Once asked my Cardiologist the best way to prevent heart problems and his response was "if you could pick your parents".

A-fib for me probably started 2 years ago and I just didn't know what it was. At the time, there were bouts of SOB with exertion or when I bent over for more than a few seconds....as to put on shoes, etc. My thought was I needed to exercise with a little more intensity....and I was getting out of shape. Then it would go away for days, weeks and even months....only to return. Got bad enough I asked the doctor why.

Soon after, I was able to self diagnose.....no mistake with these symptoms. I asked my Dr. why there wasn't a device like an ICD that would stop A-fib. He said there was once and it had wires to the Atrium....but no one liked it. I didn't ask why. I have tried to research what he was telling me about but so far haven't found any information. Maybe some member here has experience and can tell more about it.

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Re: A-fib and marijuana

Post by Ozchrissy » Today, 5:54 pm

Leedur, I am always surprised how our devices don't work with AFib, you would think it would be just a small adjustment to lead placement. After all with a Biventricular Pacer, the 3rd lead goes on the left side via a vein already.

I do not get AFib, which to me is a pain in the neck. The blood thinners used over here for AFib ALONE, you have to have it before you are prescribed them, are far superior to Warfarin, but I still have to use the Rat sac.

As for the happy weed, I was getting it illegally from my daughters boyfriend, and I was using it mainly to raise my appetite. It was brilliant, nearly ate the house empty when I was using it. I had asked my surgeon and GP about using it, and their only concern was about monitoring the strength. The was relevant one time, and the last time I used, as I got as high as a kite and really did not like the effects. I have been offered it again, but have not accepted as I really did get a weird experience and as you all know, with head spins and light headedness just as a result of our hearts behaviour, this added on top made me scared,

Off topic but memories are flowing
I must admit I had a lot of fun the other evening. One of the other people who live in my retirement village is an old druggie. I really don't have anything to do with her other than my best friend here, who has sort of taken her under her wing. We were having a bit of a soiree here, and I happened to have a bag of catnip sitting near my recliner. Well I noticed her looking at it all night, and didn't say a word. When she was leaving she of course asked me if she would have some, I agreed and gave her the whole bag, well to say the least, she was overjoyed. I let her go home and I was actually going to let her try it and ask her the next day how it went, but I have a goody two shoes good mate and she dobbed me in. I would love to have been a fly on the wall when this woman got her bong going and her reaction to the stuff. I don't think it is dangerous for humans, but I never got to test it. dancee dancee

Years ago when I was a young Detective in the Vice Squad, we were at a suspects house doing a drug raid, and a person came into the room I was in, laughing his head off, as he had just "sold glucoden (a sugar supplement) to the Drags in Dalgetty street as Heroin." Well I knew the drags in Dalgetty Street, and was a bit disgusted with this moron. So I charged him with false pretences, and he was convicted in the local magistrates court. I don't think this had been done before or after that I know of. wavhi About a week later I was chatting to the "girls' and asked them how the deal was and they told me it was great. Makes you wonder if all these casual users need is a dose of sugar to get a high.
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Oesophageal Cancer, 2012, Gall Bladder & Septicemia 2014 resulting in VFib and severe heart damage
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